KevinBooth
Dec 7 2006, 07:49 PM
Roxdog
Dec 8 2006, 11:02 AM
KevinBooth
Dec 8 2006, 12:10 PM
"Nuremberg-Style Trials Proposed For Global Warming Skeptics"
“Michael Richards Please” picture me rolling my eyes..
Alex as do I, love driving a huge SUV, speed boat ect....
You know: anyone who claims to know everything about what is happening to our envioronment is full of shit. I’m sure the sun is getting hotter, but I challenge you to come to Los Angeles and spend a few hours everyday sitting on the 405 freeway surrounded by thousands of huge vehicles mostly with one occupant. I’m not a scientist, but if your going to tell me that the fumes rising from that freeway are not bad for our planet, I would tell you to sit there until you turn purple & get lung cancer.
And you will...
KB
Japanese_American
Dec 8 2006, 03:41 PM
Hey all, this is my first official post. But I was wondering, what happen if Al Gore is half right? What if he got the gas/SUV/pollution wrong but got the gist of it correct? Is there any hope?
Let me explain
I believe in global warming. Yes the earth is getting warm, the polar caps are melting and our weather is goofy. It's 76 degree farenheit in Los Angeles, warm water fish are swimming up north and we're primed for an El Nino or worse, a hurricane. Did man do it? This is where my theory comes in. Man may have contributed over the years but I believe not the main source of the problem. Neither Republicans or Democrats are to blame but what a great way for Gore to blame the Republicans for creating this mess. I believe that global warming is cyclical.
I like this story
Click hereWhat happens if we have no control and for so many years, mother nature cools herself down using global warming? So it's the sun that's causing the warm up. Do you know how far is Pluto to the sun? 3,674,491,000 miles. Can the Sun's heat melt the snow on Pluto? If not, then why is Pluto experiencing global warming?
Click HereSo is smog creating this? Not really. But then, the question should be, what are the leaders doing to protect their consituents? Going to war in Iraq?
KevinBooth
Dec 8 2006, 04:23 PM
I watched that entire film for the first time last night, and although he hits on the Republicans a bit, I think its crazy to say he is blaming them. Give the guy a break; he had the presidency robbed out from underneath him. How can you not expect him to use a clip of Bush SR. saying, “if we elect this guy we will be out of work and up to our eyes in Hoot Owls” (or whatever he said)?
I think any intelligent person, will agree that there are probably thousands of reasons for the environment to be changing. It’s like a guy dying of liver failure who still smokes. Did the ciggs cause the liver problem (probably not) would his chances of surviving go up if he quite smoking (ciggs that is) most likely? Are lots of people going to jump on a bandwagon & blame the ciggs (yes)
I will say the sun getting warmer argument is all the reason to move forward with solar, but until they come up with a solar Hummer its just a dream.
We can all find articles on the Internet to back up whatever position we want backed. For me it’s an intuition feeling, when I smell smog I smell death. When I see (with my own eyes) rivers and streams and beaches that have gone from being pristine to being putrid in my lifetime, its hard to blame it on the sun.
Hey but if it says it’s true on the Internet (OPPS Al Gore invented the Internet)
I read it on the Internet.
KevinBooth
Dec 9 2006, 12:17 PM
Mankind is like a bug crawling on this planet and rapidly destroying the environment. High CO2 emissions, world wide (plastic) pollution, water shortages, destructive agriculture, radioactive waste, chemical pollution and so on ... there is a long list of sins!
We think we know it all but we do not even understand the oceans and its currents we are sailing for 5000 years and now we claim to know even Pluto is heating up? Come on, we do not even have a clue of what is really going on! Even if the sun is partially responsible for the climatic effects, there is still part due to human activity!
How sane is it to keep discussing about who or what is responsible while in the meantime our planet is crashing at high speed?
We do know that lowering the CO2 levels will slow down climate change that is a fact. It is high time to act and start thinking about real solutions to preserve what we have left. We should stop these silly discussions and articles. My concern is how to avoid this scenario, rather than arguing who I can blame for it. And yes it will require all of us to participate whether we like it or not.
We will be the first generation to see massive and world wide changes regardless if there is a climate problem or not (extermination of ocean fish, forests and plants due to irresponsible human activity is already taking place). This planet cannot sustain 6 billion people with a Western lifestyle. Every action we take needs to be well thought of and in time before effects are irreversible.
And if in time it turns out the Sun is truly to blame for climate change than you better start praying and hope that our CO2 reductions are enough to keep a reasonable balance to maintain our lifestyle.
Imagine oceans rising 2 meters? What will be the effect on your life? Hard times are ahead, it's almost a fact.
I got this off a message board from Prison-Planet
KB
Pisces
Dec 11 2006, 11:55 PM
As Bill said:
People are virus with shoes
Roxdog
Dec 12 2006, 02:08 PM
No one is giving anyone a pass on how bad we've poisoned ourselves but no, I will not be giving Al Gore or anyone of the black-checks-for China ilk a break. If he had the presidency stolen from him you sure wouldn't know it by talking to him.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=20583
KevinBooth
Dec 12 2006, 02:25 PM
Here is a Tee Shirt they sell on that web-site
Here is a Tee Shirt they sell on that web-site
http://www.thoseshirts.com/reagan.htmlThose Shirts.com
necrophagistnile
Dec 12 2006, 02:34 PM
is that stephen colbert on the shirt?
ha
Roxdog
Dec 12 2006, 03:23 PM
QUOTE(KevinBooth @ Dec 12 2006, 02:25 PM)

Here is a Tee Shirt they sell on that web-site
[url=Here is a Tee Shirt they sell on that web-site
http://www.thoseshirts.com/reagan.html]http://www.thoseshirts.com/reagan.html[/url]
So, the T shirts negate the facts? Moveon and Air America have some pretty tasteless T shirts too but to brush the entire network off because of it wouldn't make much sense. If I show someone your drug war film would it make sense for them to negate the facts contained in it because you sell T shirts that many might find pretty silly? Note that I say this while my sacred cow T shirt tumbles in the dryer ...
Oh, and I like this one...

Roxdog
Dec 12 2006, 03:52 PM
And for the record...I mean no disrespect whatsoever. Ive been a fan of you, Bill and The Cow since I was 16 or 17.
Cheers,
Rox
KevinBooth
Dec 12 2006, 04:30 PM
No
I am saying that your using people who have an obvious Right Wing agenda to negate anything Al Gore says. I don’t care if Al Gore is a baby fucking devil worshiper, it’s beside the point. If only one percent of what he says in his film is true then I thinks it’s important for people to pay attention to it. Back to my earlier post: I am going off of things that I have felt in my own life. I myself am a nature person, and I could take you to many places that have changed for the worse in my lifetime, and maybe the sun getting warmer has had some little effect on it, who knows? Not you, not me, not Alex Jones or Al Gore. I just think its lame and selfish when people are unable to accept any sort of responsibility for the way things are going. I’m also sick of the oil companies destroying the planet and I do believe (myself) that our environment is fragile and that we as an over populating bunch of idiots need more abortion clinics and less SUV’s
FunkBone
Dec 19 2006, 07:44 PM
His claim that government action solved the hole in the ozone problem made me laugh out loud. There always was, is now and always will be a hole in the ozone. And it is not a problem. Global warming is real and natural and unavoidable. What concerns me is not that the consequences may be as he described, but rather what he sees the government doing about it. This film is fear mongering of a different flavor. Interesting information, but overall Al Gore is not to be trusted.
Batman
Dec 25 2006, 01:10 AM
I find this, highly effiligent, in, edumacationists, for my brain. Because, I am smart boy.
Dr. Death
Dec 26 2006, 12:01 PM
Yeah, this is one of those things... What's the name of it? The thing where it's all boring and other people call you dumb for not caring about it... Man, what is the name of it...? It's on the tip of my tongue...
Oh yeah- total bullshit.
Embrace ignorance; embrace Dr. Death.
I'm way too cool for this anyway...
Batman
Dec 26 2006, 10:21 PM
I don't reckon I got no reason to post in this thread. Mmm.
FunkBone
Jan 18 2007, 11:28 PM
FunkBone
Feb 13 2007, 06:44 PM
An afterthought on all the evidence supporting the fact that the polar ice is melting: There are those who will tell you that the earth is in the process of a polar shift (did he mention that? I think I watched this in December). If that is the case then perhaps temperatures somewhere we don't yet recognize as being the 'polar region' are noticeably lower than has been normal. It is an explanation for shrinking icecaps that has nothing to do with global warming.
cdagger
Nov 23 2007, 03:58 AM
Alex as do I, love driving a huge SUV, speed boat ect....
You know: anyone who claims to know everything about what is happening to our envioronment is full of shit. I’m sure the sun is getting hotter, but I challenge you to come to Los Angeles and spend a few hours everyday sitting on the 405 freeway surrounded by thousands of huge vehicles mostly with one occupant. I’m not a scientist, but if your going to tell me that the fumes rising from that freeway are not bad for our planet, I would tell you to sit there until you turn purple & get lung cancer.
I listen to him every day on the radio and he doesnt claim that SUV's aren't bad for the environment! He says we are obliterating the environment in 100 (or more) ways, but also simply repeats that there is a huge dearth of disagreement among the scientists about whether or not global warming is caused by our co2 emissions. He aint claiming that we arent messing with the earth. The theory he puts forward is one that is hard to disagree with. See his movie Endgame for the full explanation about the warming. It is a fact that the suns solar output has been gradually increasing over the last 100 years or so. It is a fact that the sun is the overwhelmingly dominant contributor to the global temperature. Not to mention the fact that all of the planets, at least as far from the sun as Saturn, that have icecaps are now having their icecaps melt. I dont know the exact name of the particular moon in question, but it is one of Jupiters or Saturns; it was ice some years ago, and is now a liquid sea.
There is NO QUESTION we need to fix our emissions. But CO2 is actually BENEFICIAL to the environment. Anyone indoor pot grower (or alternatively a greenhouse horticulturist) could tell you that it benefits plants, increases their growth rates, and in turn increases the amount of oxygen these plants release, thus the system eventually balances itself. Of course, this doesn't work when we are continuing to chop down all the trees..... Another handy little fact your physics professor or chemistry teacher (or the aforementioned indoor pot grower) could tell you is that CO2 is, in fact, HEAVIER THAN AIR!!!! Yeah. It sinks to ground level and does NOT float up into the stratosphere unless first lifted up there by ummmmm....... oh yeah COMMERCIAL AIRPLANES, MILITARY JETS AND MUSHROOM CLOUDS!
WAKE UP! READ THE SCIENCE AND STOP GETTING IT FROM YOUR FRIENDS OR THE NEWS!
Dr. Death
Dec 15 2007, 11:13 AM
I think you're confusing CFC's with C02. That's totally gay.
I actually watched an Incovenient Truth on cable about a week ago. I don't remember most of it because they decided to play the last hour or so after I fell asleep. I did watch this other thing on the Discovery Channel though; there's going to be a big drought coming up worse and longer than the one in the 1930's. You guys should go to the supermarket and buy a bunch of bottled waters for when you get real thirsty.
MR2
Jan 31 2008, 03:09 PM
I bought this on DVD a few weeks ago and enjoyed it.
I've heard people put it down because it's Al Gore but I give credit for him for doing it, awareness does need to be raised about global warming, every country in the world needs to develop a greener policy but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon which is a real shame, not when big businesses dominate so much of the decision making in this world.
My point being is that everyone should do their bit no matter how big or small.
We have a lot of television coverage in the United Kingdom about global warming/climate change and it's a topic that's always cropping up in conversation.
People do want to do their bit and play a role in changing the way we live, to simply dismiss this as another conspiracy is crazy!!!
Even IF we find out in the future that we were wrong (highly unlikely) what's wrong with doing your bit to cut your emissions and recycle and actually get out and lobby governments that we want change? If enough people do it they will have to change their thinking but we need to change ourselves at the same time too.
Good on Al Gore for making this documentary, I only have a few nagging questions about the whole thing:
Would Al Gore be this passionate about it if he didn't lose the election in 2000 and was currently coming to the end of his second term as President of the USA? Would the world be a different place? It's hard to imagine it would be but that's really another issue entirely.
sunupu
Feb 25 2008, 09:08 PM
Yeah, you'd have to be high not to see the weather's changing. Which I am, but I can still see it.
Hmmn...
His book The Assault on Reason is brilliant. He talks about that attack on facts and logic (or reason as the title implies) and throws a few good digs at fox news and the like. Best of all he makes what seems like speculation fact, like the idea that TV rots the brain.
One more thought. I read my local opinion section all the time, and this lady said global warming's a hoax bigger than Y2K. Her evidence? Well, if global warming were happening it would be warmer, not colder. I swear, some people need to be beat with a science book until they learn. "If a glass full of ice melts, how can the water be cold? Sounds like witchcraft to me."
The Milky Cowboy
Mar 2 2008, 06:51 AM
Weather changes...It always has...You can adapt...or not...
Wait...How about declaring War on Global Warming?....I'm sure that nothing but good things would come of it...I'm surprised the government isn't all over this one already....It fits right in with the war on drugs and the war on terror...
sunupu
Mar 2 2008, 11:20 PM
QUOTE(The Milky Cowboy @ Mar 2 2008, 04:51 AM)

Weather changes...It always has...You can adapt...or not...
Wait...How about declaring War on Global Warming?....I'm sure that nothing but good things would come of it...I'm surprised the government isn't all over this one already....It fits right in with the war on drugs and the war on terror...
Nah, they only mind-skull-fuck you where it serves their own ends. A War on Global Warming would never fly because they only declare war on things South of the poverty line. Fuck, even the countries they bomb are poor. I like to call it the "dickpussy" policy. I will say, however, that a war on global warming sounds remotely appealing. Hey, it'd be one war we could win (defenceless underdeveloped nations excluded)
The big thing now is oil companies acting like they're part of the solution. Like BP changed from
British Petroleum to
Beyond Petroleum. Ugh, the balls these guys have...
I'm just bitter because they got caught dumping in Lake Michigan, where I live. It's funny, at first when it was only known somebody was polluting these pricks told the press they'd help get with the investigation, give money and shit. When it got released out
they were the ones dumping, they suddenly clammed up, not even giving up the list telling what they dumped (much like Nixon and his precious tapes). It ended happily enough, though. BP had to cough up millions in decontamination efforts, and now they report millions more in losses due to negative stories in the area. That's actually one the reasons the whole
Beyond Bullshit campaign began, they wanted to stop, they're doing damage control. Might take a while here where I live...
charismagician
Mar 16 2008, 02:41 PM
That story gives me thoughts like, "if that oil company was forced to pay, how can the oil companies be in control"? Even the oil companies have to sacrifice themselves to the bigger picture.
sunupu
Mar 16 2008, 06:18 PM
Yeah, but now there's an air pollution bill being passed in the region, and rumor has it the exact amount of toxic fumes allowed is being softened due to "contributions" from BP. In businesses like this all that matters is the end-profit. They may have lost the killing-fish round of this war, but in truth all they lost was some money. Thanks to all the anti-pollution campaigning done by them, most people in the region have forgotten what happened only four months ago. Well, I guess that's the world we live in now. Fight with all your might, and if you lose just show a woman (preferably a minority) cleaning up a duck from an oil spill in your commercial. People are retarded, they don't hold grudges (however legit) because that would involve work.
Like remember when Eminem was done? He got scared of that rubber dog from Conan, bashed Moby for being a pacifist, then tried to make up for all the gay-bashing in his albums by hugging Elton John? Everyone said his career was toast. So he disappeared, came back a year later, and the national response was, "Oh hey, Eminem, I was wondering where he disappeared to...". Same thing with Firestone, the tires that exploded back in the eighties.
People are so god-damned nostalgic, it takes alot to get them off an idea. Screech is popular again, for God sakes ! Screech! And he did so by being an asshole and giving some girl a Dirty Sanchez in a porno! It's gotten so bad we actually get off on the bad side of people. don't even get me started about Brittany Spears (and her disgusting flabbity beast she calls her vagina). I don't know what started it, but until it stops we won't be able to deal with assholes like BP, bottom line. If we're unable to keep pop-stars like Brit in perspective then the mega-corporations will mop the floor with us and our world...
charismagician
Mar 16 2008, 11:18 PM
I like it better when you are venting as opposed to joking. You are sometimes funny but your last few posts made perfect sense to me.
The Milky Cowboy
Mar 17 2008, 01:41 AM
The reason I'm surprised that the government hasn't jumped all over the War on Global Warming is that it would give them a reason to develope a world wide system of 'weather satellites' equipped with plenty of thermal imaging equipment at the taxpayer's expense...and probably with their support....Not only that, but you could probably pass some laws that would allow the 'weather police' to kick down the door of any suspected residence that may be harboring aerosol cans or other chemicals that may be leading to global warming...If you really wanted to get goofy with it you could outlaw cars and planes (except for the military, of course) and force everyone to travel by a system of electromagnetic trains...which would be great for the environment...and even greater for control of the populace as rail cars can only go where the rails take them...and you could even tie it into to the war on terror by blowing up a train or two and thus requiring papers and invasive searches in order to ride the trains...So between the transportation and the weather satellites you could pretty much keep track of every living thing on the planet...
Sounds way better than switching over to combustion engines that run on water...
sunupu
Mar 17 2008, 02:08 AM
Well, venting (or explaining)'s basically what I do on stage, but with jokes. I take something I write about first (like my last post), and pepper it with golden nuggets of funny. That way it's funny and true (plus otherwise it's shitty, I suck at improv)! I have to do it that way, otherwise I'd be stuck doing jokes about buying tampons and the annoyance of the DMV like every hack-comic from here to the Boston...
And you're on to something Milky, but you have to factor in that gooberment's not aloud to make satellites for warfare. I forget the name of the bill, but we essentially agreed space cannot be used for warfare (unless of course you count photos of trucks carrying aluminum tubes in Iraq, but that's starting war, not during). But yeah, no observing war zones. Now if you're talking bullshit "war on..." operation meaningless euphemism wars (and I know you are) then they got us on satellite. Personally I feel anyone's job that forces them to watch people without their consent is punishment in itself. You'd think excitement (like girls showering), but you'd be wrong (people not showering, gross!).
The Milky Cowboy
Mar 17 2008, 02:09 AM
Shit....I completely left
HAARP technology out of the last post....I'm sure they could find some clever ways to work that into the war....
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